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In "Beyond the Wall" (Game of Thrones, S07E06), the Night King throws a spear towards one of the three dragons, which is seen somewhere very far. Meanwhile, Daenerys, along with her other dragon, probably Drogon, is seen somewhat nearer to him and engaged in a mission to save Jon Snow on the ground.

It seems that the Night King can easily have attacked that dragon. Why did he choose the furthest flying dragon?

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    I assume because it was the dragon breathing fire and attacking the whites at the moment
    – madmada
    Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 7:36
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    Because nobody like Viserion ;)
    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 7:41
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    he aimed Drogon first but seeing the other dragon targeting him he had to change target.
    – Gorkem
    Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 7:41
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    Another question that concerns me is: How strong is the Night King? Launching a spear of this size that far would require a big Ballista. If the night King has such strength there's no way of blocking him in a sword fight (which I assume will happen at some point) Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 8:52
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    It is just bad writing really. The heroes can't die, it would be way too realistic. This show is starting to look just like any hollywood movie now. It's so sad. Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 11:02

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You've pointed at a good flaw. Drogon would have been an equally valid target.

But there are some options here as to why the NK chose Viserion over Drogon.

1. Drogon is considerably larger.

Although the ice spear did penetrate Viserion's skin with relative ease, Drogon is a considerably larger and stronger dragon.

We don't know much about the ice spear and whether it has any magical qualities that help with killing dragons. But given that Qyburn's ballista would make for an effective weapon too, I'm going to assume that dragon scales can be penetrated by brute force alone, without any magic. The ice spear was thrown with a tremendous amount of force.

But maybe killing Drogon was a stretch. He's a bigger dragon, and looks to be more armored as well. Maybe the Night King wasn't sure that it'd kill Drogon, and therefore he focused on the smaller, weaker dragons first.

2. Drogon was on the ground.

Viserion was hit, couldn't fly anymore, and hit the ice with a considerable impact. When Dany flies away later, you can see that the mark Viserion left on the ice is by far the largest, thus showing that Viserion made a high velocity, high impact landing.

Drogon was on the ground. Even if he were to be hit in the same fashion as Viserion, he wouldn't hit the ground with such an impact, thus not knocking him out or killing him on impact. This may give Drogon (or Danaerys) the time to deal with the spear.
Viserion did lose a lot of blood very quickly; but Drogon is comparatively larger and more armored, would bleed less, and is maybe able to shrug it off more easily (similar to why stabbing a dog-sized animal with a dagger will kill it, but stabbing an elephant-sized animal will only wound it)

There is another thing to consider here. The spear hit Viserion under the wing. I'm not sure how much of a marksman the Night King is, but he hit Viserion in a place that would prevent him from flying, which is exactly how he should have taken Viserion down. It's also likely that the dragons are less armored near their wings, because armoring would chafe them during flying. They need a fair range of movement with their wings.

This is pure speculation, but if we assume that the Night King was aiming for a weak spot near the base of the wing, Drogon would not be a viable target as he was using his wings to rest on the ground, and therefore covering it. The weak spot would not be visible/hittable by the Night King.

Even if he could pierce Drogon's wing to hit the weak spot anyway, he had no line of sight to the weak spot and would be guesstimating his throw. Since this theory assumes that the Night King was aiming precisely, that makes Drogon a difficult target to accurately hit (exactly on the weak spot).

Comparatively, the flying dragons were better targets, as their weak spots are more exposed to those below them.

Looking at the linked image in GhotiandChips' answer, from the Night King's perspective, most of what he could hit on Drogon seems to either be pretty well armored, or invisible due to the wing covering line of sight to it.

3. Drogon couldn't escape right away.

It should have been clear to the Night King that Drogon was the transport dragon, carrying Dany and soon also the others. This slows Drogon down. He is also not able to just up and leave, because he can't leave Dany or the others, who will be quickly overwhelmed by the wights.

The Night King wasn't trying to kill one dragon, he was trying to kill multiple dragons. He obviously did not stop at killing one. Though we didn't see him throw a third spear, nor target Rhaegal specifically, it seems fair to assume that he was trying to kill all the dragons.

If he kills Drogon first, Rhaegal and Viserion can immediately fly away. They are already in the air, mobile, and they don't have to take people along with them.
If he kills a flying dragon first, Drogon can't just fly away. Not only will it take him more time to leave (due to not flying already), he also needs to load people, and presumably fly more safely so that the people do not fall off (evidenced by Jorah almost falling off when Drogon dodged the spear).

If you're trying to kill as much as you can, start by killing those who can run away to safety quickly, and kill the slow ones later.

4. Unknown and out of universe reasons

  • Viserion was the weakest dragon, mentally and physically. Maybe that's why Viserion was targeted. Maybe dragons can resist the resurrection of the white walkers (or retain their identity), but Viserion is notably weak (as was Vyserys, who the dragon is named after). But this is pure speculation of course.
  • It's a story. It wouldn't make narrative sense to kill the representative dragon first. Drogon is shown considerably more often than the others, because he is the representative of the dragons. This is similar to Thormund. We haven't seen any wildlings (excuse me, Free Folk) lately. Whenever the wildl... Free Folk have been part of the story, they have been represented by Thormund. Other representatives are Grey Worm (for the Unsullied), Daario (for the Second Sons), Yohn Royce (for the knights of the Vale), Jaqen (for the Faceless Men, who really should be represented by many faces to prove a point), ...
  • It's classic exposition. When a villain introduces his doomsday weapon, he will usually showcase its ability on a random test subject. This is done to prove to the viewer that the weapon is real and deadly. I could point to another example from Rick and Morty. There is a scene where Rick is sad, but is not speaking (it's just music playing). He takes out a device, and a little creature, and kills the creature with the device. He then puts the device on his own head, clearly intending to kill himself. If the viewer did not see the first creature die, they would not understand that this is a suicide attempt (e.g. maybe it's a device to clear headaches). The same is true here. Viserion's death proves to the viewer that dragons can be killed by White Walkers. Up until now, that was never proven. It's possible that viewers thought that the dragons are the be all end all solution to White Walkers, but this scene proves that they are still risking their lives by fighting the White Walkers.
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    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Dec 7, 2017 at 12:44
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Just my own believes, but what always explains every White Walker decision question to me:

I really believe all along that the Night King is always just provoking them. I feel that he is not in a rush because he believes he already won the war. Many times it just seems like he is always taunting everyone. He is always showing off. It always feels like if only the White Walkers moved, they could end everything.

In Season 7 Episode 6 the White Walkers could have ended everything so many times. They let Jon's crew stay in that little island what seemed to be days until the ground freeze and the Wights decide to attack. They could have thrown javelins, and I suspect that they could even use their powers to freeze the ground faster.

He could have taken any dragon, IMO, but he decided to just show off getting another one just to panic them. I don't feel he is in a rush to kill any of them. I don't believe they feel the necessity to kill everyone just because they can. I feel they WANT THIS WAR, but they want to appreciate it. This is the kind of personality I feel from them: they like to spread fear. Remembering that they once passed through Sam and left him there. It seemed more enjoyable to see him scared to death.

Also, a major show off moment, IMO, was when the Night King saw Jon leaving in the boat in Season 5 Episode 8, and raised his hands to summon every dead in the fight.

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    This is probably the strongest argument of all presented here that can and probably does justify rather weak writing in the second part of the 6th episode. Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 23:47
  • The White Walker did not necessarily see Sam. movies.stackexchange.com/questions/11810/… Commented May 21, 2019 at 6:09
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Since we're covering all the possibilities, there's one more that would tie up a lot of the in-universe questions (such as, why did the army of dead react so slowly?) and out-of-universe questions (such as, why not just CGI it differently so Viserion was closer?!?).

Are our heroes more useful to him alive than dead at this point?

If he could hit a moving dragon at that distance with an ice spear, he could hit some sleeping humans.

The army of wights ignored the frozen ice until Sandor accidentally noticed it had re-frozen. Not responding to that would have been suspicious - even then, they were slow to react, slow to charge and didn't attack from all sides (climbing the back of the rock) until moments before the dragons arrived.

The white walkers themselves just hung at the back and watched until the dragons arrived. We've seen they can freeze water with their presence - they didn't. They could probably have reanimated Thoros while the others slept, (before anyone even noticed he had died), and have him kill one or more in their sleep - they didn't. They could have provided ice spear artillery during the fight - they didn't. And he was in no hurry at all to take that second shot that was aimed at Drogon.

At best, he seems casually unconcerned about these particular humans.

We know from the Night King's encounter with Bran that he has some sort of as-yet unknown abilities to see or understand things across time and space. And let's face it, Jon has been very useful so far and may continue to be:

  • He plans to deliver a wight to King's Landing despite knowing very little about the risks. For all we know, this could allow the Night King to observe through it's eyes, or reanimate nearby corpses, or take control of a certain 7-foot armoured corpse... Lots of possibilities, before we even begin to ask questions about Qyburn
  • He dug up the cache of dangerous dragonglass hidden at the fist of the first men and delivered it somewhere (Hardhome) the white walkers could attack and secure it easily
  • He also gathered many well armed, well armoured soon-to-be-resurectable corpses to the same place
  • He fell straight into what could have been an obvious trap ("Why is this small group of the dead walking down this easy-to-ambush revine? And why did they all collapse except one? That's lucky!")
  • He baited three dragons into what could have been a very well-laid dragon trap, giving the Night King an undead dragon for relatively little cost (one white walker, a few hundred disposable wights)

And while (thanks largely to Sam) he did pay a part in beginning dragonglass mining, he again lost most of it on this expedition.


I'm not saying the Night King might have been conspiring for a long time to keep Jon alive, he's not that useful and brings some risks too, just that he might at this moment:

  • aim at the parked Drogonbus first, because an undead dragon is so much more useful than these fools and this is a great opportunity to get one
  • see the other dragon
  • decide that an undead dragon and the potential to get more value from these easily manipulated warm bloods is best (especially since if he misses he has time to try again while the Drogonbus takes off)
  • hits, leisurely takes another spear, can't see dragon #3
  • decides that a second undead dragon would be nice and more useful than the potential value of these foolish humans, so takes another shot
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    Nice points here as well. If as Bran, the Night King is able to see through time then it is all decided for him and he already foresaw the course of events. Notice how he never makes any haste, as if he already knows how this ends. So far, except for minor losses, humans only made him stronger. Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 23:55
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    Capturing the wight was very suspicious, yes. Almost as if the Night King wanted them to take a wight back. We may not have seen the whole of this trap quite yet :)
    – Luaan
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 14:51
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    "he again lost most of it on this expedition." What? There's no indication during the episode that dragonglass is involved, or that they took any of it with them.
    – TylerH
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 15:17
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There is no compelling logical in-universe answer, so far.

As shown in these images, Drogon poses as much (if not more) of a threat as the other dragons from the moment he lands, breathing fire continually.

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Drogon is even seen burning away his army of the dead as he's walking up the hill to choose a target for his spear.

The intelligent (and even intuitive) choice would have been Drogon:

  • Drogon is a sitting duck (easy to hit and vulnerable)
  • Drogon is the closest target
  • Drogon has just burned away vast chunks of your army, and is currently burning them as you take aim (he poses the largest threat)
  • On Drogon's back sit the enemies you have been watching and waiting to die (i.e. even if we give the Night King the benefit of doubt, and he really has no idea that this group poses any kind of threat, we still know he very much wanted them killed).

Whether the Night King operates with conscious intelligence, or whether he operates with animalistic, predatory intuition, Drogon would have been the obvious choice.

The true answer is that the Night King isn't being driven by personal, realistic logic but by plot-logic. In other words, he was written to choose Viserion because choosing Drogon, who's carrying Daenerys (and company), would result in a peril that they didn't want to write (a direction they didn't want the plot to take). Daenerys has plot armor, so if Drogon at that moment is carrying her, Drogon will survive (until Daenerys' plot armor expires, of course).

Just accept that this is a weakly written moment in the show where logic wasn't prioritised (which contrasts strongly with the source material written by GRRM, and is why it stands out to you as confusingly illogical).


Possible in-universe, logical explanations I'm going on a limb and being very generous to the show by accepting any of the following as the actual logic they intended to write here:

  • The Night King, in arrogance, thought he could take down multiple dragons, so he started with the more difficult target, a flying one, spotting on flying relatively close-by, so that he could kill Drogon next.
  • The Night King is toying with Daenerys and the rest of our heroes. We know from "Hardhome" (Game of Thrones, S05E08) that the Night King likes to show off, so it's possible that by taking the difficult shot, and keeping our heroes alive, he is playing a psychological game to show them how tough he is.
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    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Dec 7, 2017 at 12:45
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Because Viserion was attacking his army at that moment and Drogon was not. Night king need his soldier for the coming war and maybe he was overconfident that he can attack Drogon easily later as he is too near for a possible attack. But later we see that he miss Drogon.

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    and Drogon was not That is decidedly untrue. Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 8:19
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    In the episode, during the shot of the Night King walking up to throw his spear, Drogon and Viserion are simultaneously breathing fire on the Army of the Dead. Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 8:21
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    @GhotiandChips I am talking about that specific moment not whole epsiode
    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 8:49
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    So am I Drogon and Viserion are simultaneously breathing fire on the Army of the Dead Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 8:50
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    @GhotiandChips In the fight, yes , at that specific moment , no.
    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Aug 21, 2017 at 9:12
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Winging a dragon in flight is more likely to kill it from the impact after it falls to the ground, as opposed to stabbing a nearby creature that may turn on you and breathe fire in your face or eat you.

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There were plenty of logic holes in "Beyond the Wall," but this one is one of the easier ones to speculatively fill. I say speculatively because at this point in the progression of the divergent-from-the-books plot of the series, we as viewers have very little information on the motivations, thought processes, and history of the Night King, making it extremely difficult to explain why he makes the decisions that he does and what his end game is (adding narrative suspense).

Making a guess as to the Night King's dragon-targeting heuristic -> at the moment in the episode when he picks up an ice spear, he's facing three active threats in the forms of Dany's dragons as well as the more peripheral threat of Jon Snow, who has demonstrated his ability to kill white walkers with Longclaw, his Valyrian steel sword. From a purely tactical standpoint, the two dragons in the air (Viserion & Rhaegal) are the biggest threats due to the fact that they are airborne and mobile. Drogon at this point in time is currently grounded and is unlikely to take off until commanded to by Dany, who is occupied with assisting Jon's companions onto the back of the dragon. We can reasonably assume that Drogon's dragonfire is limited in range and that the Night King is out of that range. Drogon is definitely among the top 3 threats at this moment, however, targeting him first would only make sense if the Night King did not feel that the dragons or Jon Snow posed any significant threat, making Drogon the most valuable dragon to turn while simultaneously trapping Dany, Jon, and their party.

Given the relative impossibility of neutralizing both Drogon and Jon with one spear, targeting Drogon would result in the Night King attracting aggro/focus from Jon Snow as well as Viserion & Rhaegal simultaneously. The Night King could possibly take out one more dragon hurtling towards him with dragon fire with his second spear but his chances of survival would be much lower than picking off Viserion first. The Night King actually does target Drogon next who Dany is forced to take airborne immediately, leaving Jon behind to certain (were it not for plot armor) death - the second ice spear very narrowly misses as well.

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I think the night king wants a bigger army. It would be logical to taunt as many of the southern kings as possible into attacking him... on his own land, where the white walkers are strongest and the mortal armies have to fight hunger and the cold.

Now, by attacking and killing Dany und Jon he could hurt his enemies, but they are the only ones foolish enough to confront him openly. If they die, than nobody will invade the north, and the white walkers will eventually have to head into the sunny south, something they probably want to do as late as possible. And to be honest, killing two kings will just make other men take over, without the realm being much weaker.

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    You seem to have forgotten that the White Walkers are bringing the winter with them.
    – LeonX
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 12:37
  • @LeonX There's still plenty of advantage to fighting beyond the wall - poor supply lines, hardly any foraging/scavenging, knowledge of terrain, infrastructure... and the wall forms a pretty good barrier against retreating troops, not just attackers - anvil and hammer and all that. It's not a bad guess. And we don't really know the extent of the White Walkers magic, at least in the show - they might just be following the (magical) winter, rather than bringing it with them.
    – Luaan
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 14:58
  • @Luaan Do you at least agree with me that if the White Walkers remained beyond the Wall there would be peace?
    – LeonX
    Commented Aug 22, 2017 at 15:00
  • @LeonX Sure (with the undead, that is - it would scarcely affect the wars between humans :D). The question is, do they want peace? Are they capable of peace? The Night King might still be compelled by his original mission and unable to break free of it, for example. We simply don't know a lot about their own capacity for thought - they seem intelligent, cunning even; but are they independent? Do they have their own desires? There's too many questions, and so few answers. And as far as I'm concerned, it's narratively insignificant next to the main story - politics :P
    – Luaan
    Commented Aug 23, 2017 at 7:09
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It appeared to me that Visarion was flying in to attack the White Walkers & the Night King - had the Night King have thrown the spear at any other dragon, they would have been burned before he could have thrown another spear.

The Night King was removing the greatest threat to himself at that moment in time.

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Narrative structure.

Dragon is supposedly much larger than his siblings, large enough to fly multiple people between Eastwatch and the ambush, which can’t be that big a distance considering Gendry ran back there.

Kill him and the Mother of Dragons and Azor Ahai are stranded in that glacier and they are both eventually overwhelmed and killed. That is why the Night’s King chose to attack the smaller moving target rather than the stationary larger target.

Ice dragons are a separate species that is rumored to exist in the lore of the books. The show didn’t bother to lay the narrative groundwork in earlier seasons about if there could be ice-breathing dragons just as there are fire-breathing dragons.

And even if they had, they want the narrative and visual spectacle of Azor Ahai and the Mother of Dragons fighting the Night’s King with all three mounted on dragons of their own. For this to have the maximum dramatic impact, they want viewers to be invested in who the mount of the Night’s King is, not a random new species of the dragon being introduced at the eleventh hour. They can’t kill Dragon, since doing that removes Daenerys from the fight, and they can’t kill Rhaegal, because he will bond with Jon. So, Viserion quite literally picked the short straw. And instead of a living ice-breathing dragon, we are going to get an undead dragon who may or may not breathe ice.

To preserve some degree of narrative integrity, the writers had the leader of the Others try to kill Dragon right at the end, but this dragon manages to dodge, whereas Viserion was caught cold.

Tyrion is not going to be happy about this.

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Poor flight maneuverability

Simply put, Drogon is more maneuverable on land than Viserion is in the air. And the less maneuverable target is the easier one to land a (devastating) blow on.

You can watch Drogon in the fight and see that he has substantial lateral movements even as he stays mostly in the same place. This makes it easy for an attack to miss entirely, or otherwise fail to do adequate damage. The swarming wights also act as a bit of a shield: if one clambers up Drogon at an inconvenient moment then the ice spear may hit it, reducing the effectiveness of the attack.

Viserion, on the other hand, has an extremely predictable path: he's going to fly forward in pretty much the exact same direction for several seconds, as he has a ton of momentum and not a lot of ability to rapidly change direction mid-air. While the Dragons have demonstrated a limited capacity to hover, which is a pretty impressive flight maneuver, they've never been shown as having exceptional mobility. Furthermore, neither Viserion nor anyone else is even aware of the Night King's impending attack, or even considering the possibility that a meaningful ground-to-air strike can be made, so the airborne dragons are acting as if they're unassailable.

All-in-all, Viserion is the easier target: he can't move that much, nor is he even in a mindset to consider taking evasive actions.

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My guess, throwing a spear gave the night king the chance to miss the shoot and try again without being noticed. Throwing the spear against Drogon would be absolutely noticeable, with all the dragons in the air in a matter of seconds.

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This certainly can be deemed as not-accounting-for-logic writing and an attempt to keep intact, the central characters now, to the story. Drogon was carrying Danny and was going to probably take Jon. If the night king indeed went for Drogon first, which in all fairness he could have, the show would basically come to a stand still.

There could be several assumptions at this point as to why the NK went for viserion but it all comes down to making the episode little more action packed. Viserion was flying, NK is a master marksman and can throw the ice spear so perfectly that he can bring down a fire breathing dragon with one blow AND turn it into his own. Poor writing went oblivious to the fact that Drogon, the more powerful and stronger, was just a sitting duck, who was not targeted by the NK. I suppose we will have to wait to find out if indeed there is an inner meaning to this. Or this would just be a lose moment in an erstwhile brilliant series.

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