In Seinfeld's episode The Pie, Audrey, Jerry's girlfriend refuses to eat or even taste the apple pie he was offering her. This happened when they were eating at Monk's Cafe. She seemed very frightened while denying.

Later on she admits that she has eaten the apple pie many times which Poppie, her father, makes at his restaurant.

Kramer later tells Jerry that he saw Audrey eating apple pie at Monk's itself.

Jerry himself was going crazy over not knowing the reason of why she didn't eat the pie when he had offered it to her. The episode never explains it either.

Why didn't she eat the apple pie for the first time? Did you ever come across any related comment from the writers in their interview/DVD commentary?

(I've already read few related threads/articles: Reddit, AV Club. Nothing convincing there.)

  • Isn't it because Poppie doesn't wash his hands as revealed in "The Couch" episode? Oct 1, 2016 at 7:58
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    That was Jerry who didn't eat the pie later in the same episode because he saw Poppie in the men's room. Poppie doesn't wash the hands. "The Couch" was the episode where Poppie pees on Jerry's new couch.
    – Ravindra S
    Oct 1, 2016 at 8:00
  • Oh, right. Wrong episode. But, isn't that why his daughter doesn't eat it as well...because she is already aware that Poppie doesn't wash his hands? Oct 1, 2016 at 8:08
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    You are mixing two different scenes. 1) At Monk's cafe she denies eating it which isn't explained. Jerry is eating that time. 2) At "Poppie's" when they are eating she admits that she has many times eaten the apple pie which her father makes. Jerry sees Poppie not washing hand inside the men's room at "Poppie's". Hence he denies eating the apple pie at "Poppie's". But she still doesn't know that Poppie doesn't wash his hands. Hence she (says she) still eats the apple pie at "Poppie's".
    – Ravindra S
    Oct 1, 2016 at 8:12
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    Haha. No. Tthat way she wouldn't eat the pie anywhere which is contradictory to the fact she indeed eats it at both - Monk's and Poppie's. You definitely need a refresher course in Seinfeld. :-)
    – Ravindra S
    Oct 1, 2016 at 8:19

4 Answers 4


We're not supposed to know, and that's the beauty of it.

You have to know everything, don't you? (Kramer to Jerry, The Parking Space)

There's no explanation provided in the DVD extra dedicated to this episode, but the episode's writers (Tom Gammill & Max Pross) say it was based on a similar incident from Jerry's life, where a woman refused to taste his pie and it drove him mad. They thought it was a funny thing to be angry about.

And Jerry's frustration is exactly what's funny. The show could easily supply a mundane explanation, but chooses not to, not only so we could share his frustration, but also because it's beside the point. Instead, through Jerry's incident with Poppie and George's botched job interview, it cleverly shows us that there could easily be an explanation for Audrey's behavior, but Jerry will never get that because he's incapable of putting himself in someone else's shoes, and blindly prefers to scrutinize others.

In fact, Jerry's so blind to this, that it's easy to come up with a simple solution to this enigma just by drawing on his own experiences. Like, maybe Audrey saw someone sneeze (a la the pasta primavera) or cough (a la the babka) on his slice, was embarrassed to tell him but later decided to risk it anyway. Maybe (again, like the babka) it had a small hair or bug on it. Or, even more plausibly, maybe she just didn't want a bite out of someone's half eaten pie - note that she refuses right after Jerry double-dips his fork into it. A germophobe like Jerry should've understood her reluctance and drop the whole thing.

Jerry, however, is more prone to obsess over a mystery until it drives him insane and often costs him a relationship. After all, this isn't the first or last time this formula was used. He relentlessly tried to discover why Newman was turned off by his date, why everyone thinks his great girlfriend is a loser and why the woman that he's seeing keeps wearing the same dress - and these mysteries were never solved in those episodes either, because a big part of the series (right up to the very finale) is about the pitfalls of neurotic obsessions, where trying to know the social unknown never ends well.

Jerry: Well, I think we've proven who the psycho is.

Elaine: (sarcastically) We certainly have.

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    Perfect. Gidddyupp!
    – Ravindra S
    Oct 21, 2016 at 5:03

The reason is because he began eating it first and she doesn't share food and is grossed out by that. The transcript makes it clearer by stating "Jerry starts eating" before he asks her to share and she is "disgusted". Her going back to Monk's and eating the pie later (something Jerry wouldn't have done with Poppie's Restaurant) shows that Jerry was the reason.

I disagree with the other answer that "Jerry will never get that because he's incapable of putting himself in someone else's shoes", the whole reason he's interested is because he's putting himself in her shoes trying to understand. It's about Jerry letting criticisms of people's behavior overshadow a relationship. Also, Jerry's ego would likely not have him ever consider himself as the gross thing.

I also disagree that the show could've only provided "mundane" answers, as that seems a very uncreative thought to have, even more ridiculous considering the episode shows funny answers. There's always ways to make things funny. It would've been good to have her tell Jerry it was because of him, just to see him immediately move on to nitpicking that and still be in the same situation.

  • Hi George (and welcome)! I like some of the points you've raised and that's definitely a possibility. Hope my edit is OK - this isn't the original script but rather a transcript, written by someone online. Also, sorry if my answer was poorly phrased; by 'mundane' I merely meant 'simple', certainly not 'uncreative' - which Seinfeld rarely is! - and by 'putting yourself in someone's shoes' I meant actually empathizing with them, instead of pointlessly obsessing over something insignificant even when they ask you to drop it - which Jerry does seem to do a lot.
    – Walt
    Aug 31, 2019 at 22:20

I think it’s because although she eats her fathers food , maybe she still knows he doesn’t wash hands (but thinks he does when he serves her ) and maybe she thinks others dont as well in other restaurants and that’s why .. maybe she knows the chef at Monks does that as well, and when her and jerry were there that particular chef was there at the time, but not there when she went by herself ?? That’s the only thing I can come up with because it makes no sense … lol


One of the writer's beloved Apple head chihuahua had recently passed and the apple pie was in her honor. Jerry and Larry David were big chihuahua enthusiasts and there were often chihuahuas running free on-set which Julia detested because of a terrible childhood incident with her mother's chihuahua. Jerry and Larry purposely had chihuahuas on the set to make Julia angry and forget her lines. The famous "Get Out" that Julia did while pushing Jerry was first done with her actually dating "I hate chihuahuas!".

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    Again, that's a very weird explanation. Can you back this up with some sources maybe?
    – OldPadawan
    Jun 18, 2023 at 18:13

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