We know from The Avengers that Loki uses his Scepter (which houses the Mind Stone) to control the free will of Clint Barton & Erik Selvig.

Vision had the Mind stone with him all the time. Why didn't he use it to alter the minds of Black Order, or Thanos when Thanos held him during the end of Avengers: Infinity War?

Did Vision or any other Avenger not know how to use it?

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    Why the down vote? Commented Jun 25, 2018 at 19:03
  • I can understand the downvotes, but I don't see how this is opinion-based. It's clearly established in the MCU that Vision doesn't understand how the Time Stone works and doesn't know how to use its powers.
    – F1Krazy
    Commented Jun 25, 2018 at 21:05
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    Vision has repeatedly said he doesn't understand the capabilities of the stone. I'm sure he does this in both Captain America Civil War and Infinity War.
    – iandotkelly
    Commented Jun 25, 2018 at 21:05
  • We've also never been given any evidence that Vision has any powers other than the beam of energy he can emit from it, his strength and flying and being able to phase so he can pass through matter. He's never shown any ability to control minds. I will add all this as an answer if its re-opened. I hesitate to re-open it just for me to add an answer.
    – iandotkelly
    Commented Jun 25, 2018 at 21:55
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    He repeats in Infinity War the point that he doesn't understand the stone. Also you can't translate the world of DC into Marvel or visa-versa.
    – iandotkelly
    Commented Jun 26, 2018 at 4:36

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Because they can't.

The Vision does not have complete control over the Mind Stone (at best he uses it as a "force beam")...he says as much to Wanda in Captain America: Civil War.

Certainly there is no indication he can control minds with it.

Vision: Do you know, I don't know what this is? Not really. I know it's not of this world...that it powered Loki's staff, gave you your abilities, but... its true nature is a mystery. And yet, it is part of me.

Wanda: Are you afraid of it?

Vision: I wish to understand it. The more I do, the less it controls me. One day... who knows?

  • While this is not this answer's fault, I personally think this is a pretty big hole in the MCU. At no point did Stark want to investigate the Mind Stone more completely than to leave it and Vision to do what they wanted to do? It seems odd that in Endgame, Stark would have already taken the time to create an Infinity Gauntlet but not have understood the individual stones well enough to use them not-in-unison.
    – Knight
    Commented Sep 30, 2019 at 19:54

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