At the beginning of Better Call Saul S2E04, we see Mike sitting on his couch, admiring some kind of golden boxing gloves charm.

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And then, later in the episode, when Mike confronts Tuco Salmanca, Tuco is shown wearing the exact same boxing gloves charm, except it's silver.

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Mike and Tuco get into a fight, and Mike grabs Tuco by the shirt (near the charm) but Mike never rips Tuco's necklace off.

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If Mike never took Tuco's necklace, and if the two charms aren't actually the same (silver vs. gold), then, can someone please explain what's going on?

Why do Mike and Tuco have the exact same charm, just different in material? What's the meaning behind this?

On the off-chance that the two charms are in fact the same, and Mike recast it gold, then how did Mike get Tuco's necklace? Why would he even want it?

  • is it possible that Mike or someone in his family, has won the golden gloves in amateur boxing? and that Tuco has silver, runner-up, from his time? i'm also curious, as i don't actually know what kind of award they distribute for the winner of the golden gloves – Nicholas Aysen Apr 17 '18 at 6:34
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    I feel like it is the same gloves but it seems to be golden in colour in the dim-light. And considering Tuco has the same charm in Breaking Bad, there "might" be a future plot-line where Tuco and Mike meets again and perhaps Mike gives away the charm? – Nikhil Eshvar Apr 17 '18 at 7:01
  • @NikhilEshvar I think. that's the answer – Ankit Sharma Apr 17 '18 at 7:19
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    @NicholasAysen They do award something similar but I don't think they are as "blinged" as the ones in the image. – Paulie_D Apr 17 '18 at 11:39
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    Seems like clever foreshadowing. Hell, even the episode's name is gloves off. We may know the reason in a future episode. – Abhishek Mishra Apr 20 '18 at 6:19

They are not the same gloves.

Tuco learned to box and earned the silver gloves before devoting all of his time to his business.

Mike, on the other hand, was a golden gloves champion in his youth, before his years as a cop in Philly.

Mike knew that Tuco had boxing experience because he'd seen the gloves worn around his neck before.

The scene where we see Mike with the golden gloves in his hand was a foreshadow scene that served the purpose of letting the viewers know that when Mike made his plan to trap Tuco, he knew he'd be severely beaten, and would not be able to fight back, but also knew that if it came to it, he could, drawing on his experience as a golden-glover himself. Something that, if it came to it, Tuco would not be expecting.

As far as Mike was concerned, he'd defended his golden gloves.

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    Is there any source for Mike's boxing background that is mentioned in-universe in either shows (Breaking Bad or Better call saul) to substantiate your claim? – Nikhil Eshvar Apr 21 '18 at 3:42
  • None that I'm aware of, this is only my speculation. – Bill Hileman Apr 21 '18 at 3:46
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    Also there is no evidence that these are in fact "Golden Gloves" awards. In fact, an image search suggests quite the opposite. – Paulie_D Apr 21 '18 at 12:10
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    @BillHileman While the sentiment is nice, the answer is unfortunately opinionated and is an non-canonical answer which is required... – Nikhil Eshvar Apr 21 '18 at 14:34
  • Sorry for my misunderstanding. – Bill Hileman Apr 21 '18 at 14:36

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