In Star Wars: The Last Jedi Supreme Leader Snoke says that

it was he himself who was connecting Rey and Kylo Ren via the force, minutes before Kylo Ren killed him.

But later on, on the planet Crait, Rey sees Kylo when she is about to board the Millenium Falcon. She closes the door in the apparition's face. How did this happen?

Wasn't Snoke, who was connecting them, dead?

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    It's a bit unclear what you are asking.
    – A J
    Commented Dec 16, 2017 at 7:01
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    Snoke said that it was him who connected Rey and Kylo, when Rey was on the island and Kylo was on the ship. But even after Snoke died this happened on the planet Crait. How? Commented Dec 16, 2017 at 8:50

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Bonds are entirely between the two parties involved in the bond. It's unclear how Snoke caused the bond between Kylo and Rey, but the rest of the bond seems to fit with the only other canon appearance.

In the Clone Wars episode "Sacrifice (S6E13), Yoda is shown to have a bond with Dooku, since they had been close as a master/padawan. This bond also allows emotional sensing between the parties, even if one does not wish it (as we see in The Last Jedi, on Ahch-To).

Again, it's unknown how Snoke bonded Kylo and Ren without them knowing (until it was done, obviously), but it's definitely the same kind of thing as the standard force bond.

To quote Skooba's answer, "once Kylo and Rey's minds were connected they stayed connected".


It wasn't explained in the film but from the context we have a couple options:

  1. Snoke is lying. He trying to make Rey feel like she has no control, that her seemingly emotional connection with Kylo was all a farce, and she is destined to turn to the dark side. This would fit well the deceitful nature of the dark side, and plus Snoke has no real incentive to tell the truth.
  2. Snoke was telling the truth, but once Kylo and Rey's minds were connected they stayed connected. Snoke opened the door, they are just walking through it again.

Kylo and Rey are pretty powerful force users. I'd say once they were aware of the ability there is no reason why they couldn't use it on their own.

  • I like your second answer better - but your first answer is plausible. Do you mind if we post your 2 answers separately so we can vote for them individually? I can do it for you, but I'd prefer you get the credit...
    – LevenTrek
    Commented Dec 17, 2017 at 13:44

My take on it was that the earlier bonds/connections, where Rey and Kylo could see and touch one another, were facilitated by Snoke while he was still alive.

The one connection that happened after Snoke had been killed, which took place just before Rey closed the door of the Falcon, I presumed to be a simpler connection where they just mentally communicated with each other (ie. Force telepathy), very similar to how Luke and Vader communicated at the very end of Empire.


Yes, the bond still remains. Only logical explanation that anyone can think of for this is "FORCE". But why does it still remain after Snoke died?

I think it was a plot device for future interactions , Because Snoke died Kylo has no one to interact other than the generals, this makes his scenes boring in next movies. With Rey still being able to contact him can be used for some drama.

"I've got a bad feeling about this"


I had a few ideas on this.

  1. I thought it was too obvious, but they must have gone down the twins route. Luke and Leia in the originals have this bond to more of an extent than anyone else seen in the movies. Snoke knew this and attempted to use it to his advantage. Which is why the bond stays around after he is dead.

  2. They are the last Jedi's, and therefore there is a strong bond between them allowing them to stay connected.

  3. Snoke isn't dead

I think Disney has been doing a pretty good job so far on their story, I doubt it would be something obvious and certainly hope it isn't because they are related. The whole idea of anyone being a Jedi is great.

  • About (2) and (3) Snoke is definitely dead and who do you mean by "they are the last Jedis?" Commented Dec 19, 2017 at 11:17
  • Disney is dead too.
    – DaG
    Commented Dec 21, 2017 at 17:18

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