In The Dark Knight, Batman caused the Joker to fall from a building but he saved him from falling in the end.

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But in Tim Burton's Batman, Batman was the one solely responsible for Joker's fall.

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Both scenes have some parallels as initially Batman caused the fall which even looked similar but in Nolan's version (except the body position was reversed), he saved him. So why did Nolan make this change of Joker's fate in his film? Even when in the film he killed Two-Face later the same way?

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    Interesting question (edited some stuff). Also note that the grapple gun plays a key part in both (and it hits the joker's leg in both scenes, though to a reverse effect).
    – Walt
    Commented Jan 28, 2017 at 11:00
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    [BTW: "in Tim Burton's Batman, Batman was the one solely responsible for Joker's fall" Well, not really... He secured him to a gargoyle. If he'd just let go of that chopper, he might've lived. Eventually, the Joker kinda killed himself.]
    – Walt
    Commented Feb 1, 2017 at 10:35
  • @Walt But he didn't even tried to save him but Nolan's batman did saved him
    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented Feb 1, 2017 at 10:36
  • How could he? He was barely hanging on. That's presumably the best he could've done.
    – Walt
    Commented Feb 1, 2017 at 10:37
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    I don't have a source for this, so I'll just leave it as a comment, I think it does a few things: teases viewers by subverting the outcome (like SF stated in their answer), they wanted to keep things open for Joker to return in a sequel, and because I do think it make's Nolan's version more controversial, because he did initiate the fall more directly than Burton's Batman, but he also then saves him, showing that he isn't as bad, as he could be, squaring him nicely into the anti-hero category. Commented Feb 9, 2019 at 0:34

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Possibly, as it does subvert the viewers expectations as to the outcome of that final showdown, but remember - at the time the scene was conceived and photographed no body could foresee the upcoming tragedy involving Ledger and it is possible that the character was kept alive for possible future use in the sequel.

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