In the 1st season of The Flash we see that Thawne is faster than Flash. Then why did he need Barry to time travel to his to open the portal, why didn't he run fast?

  • He was unable to tap into speed force at that moment.
    – pradyot
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 9:15

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On the advices of Ankit Sharma and KutuluMike, I'm jotting down my comment here:

Though Thawne could run faster than Barry, he never had the full grasp on speed-force. Eventually, he lost the connection with speed-force just after killing Nora. That's why he had to re-create the particle accelerator explosion to give Barry the speed so that he might help him go back to his time. However, he could charge up himself with tachyon pulse generator; but that's another point.

But the crux is that Thawne could time-travel but for some reasons he lost his connection with speed-force.


The comics give a better explanation during the Flashpoint crossover event (which is what season 1 of Flash was VERY loosely based on).

At the point where Thawne had killed Nora, Barry's life changed enough that he wouldn't become the Flash. The comics show that Barry doesn't just tap into the Speed Force, he actually generates it across time and space with every step that he runs. This hasn't been explained in the show yet. Thawne couldn't access it because it never existed, hence his need to become Wells, cause the particle accelerator explosion much sooner than originally it would happen, and train Barry up for max speed, to generate a speed force that was accessible even in the future where he was from.

Strongly recommend the Flashpoint crossover; you'll find a lot of background information that explains quite a lot (if you squint at it sideways a little anyway)

  • Hey, anyone know why you have to move your mouse over the yellow text box in order to see the content? This is the second time I've seen this on the Movies exchange. Thanks! Commented May 13, 2016 at 14:04
  • Because it's potentially spoilerish content - people might not want to know, usually used for new movie discussions and the like, but anything plot-ish can be hidden with a couple characters in the text :)
    – Dave
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 14:06
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    to be fair: they haven't explained this in the show yet because I'm pretty sure it's not true in the show.
    – KutuluMike
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 14:09
  • Thanks, Dave! What characters does one use? Commented May 13, 2016 at 14:11
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    This is wrong. Given that adult Barry was there, and told young Barry not to save Nora, nothing really changed. It was supposed to happen. And what makes you think this is anything like Flashpoint?
    – cde
    Commented May 13, 2016 at 17:24

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