In The Martian (2015) we see the protagonist planting potatoes in soil that he dug out from the surface of Mars.

Wouldn't the soil be incapable of sustaining life for the potatoes (let alone giving it nutrition)?

I wonder, because I think the soil would have been exposed to too much sun light and rays that might make it radioactive.

Edit: I have accepted the answer posted below. But I just wanted to make my question more clear: The reason I assumed the soil needs time to be capable of sustaining life, is the lack or limited effect of Mars' atmosphere in protecting the surface from harmful rays emitted by the sun, whereas Earth has an atmosphere which acts as shield.

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    This isn't really a question about the movie, as the movie answers the question. You just don't agree with that answer. As such, this likely belongs on one of the science stack sites. – DA. Jan 27 '16 at 17:35
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    I'm unclear on why the explanation given in the movie is insufficient... maybe this question should be on a different stack exchange site? – sanpaco Jan 27 '16 at 17:36
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  • @DA: Depends on the question. "Was the movie realistic?" belongs here, "Explain in scientific detail why the movie is(n't) realistic" doesn't. Both answers rely on real life biology, but their context (and level of detail) is different. – Flater Jun 23 '17 at 12:11

Normally, no, you could not grow plants in Martian soil... but adding nutrients to the soil makes it perfectly usable.

There's a great article about it on Modern Farmer:

And, yes, it is possible to grow plants on Mars—kind of. Alone, Martian soil doesn’t have the necessary elements for plant life. “The main thing that’s not in Martian soil is a bunch of nutrients and biological materials that plants rely on to grow,” Weir says. “It’s not there because, obviously, there’s no life on Mars.”

So to get biological material into Martian soil, Watney uses the only spare biological material he has: astronaut poop. He mixes it in with the Martian soil, plants some potatoes that NASA had sent up with his crew, and, voila, you have plant life on Mars.

There are a couple of slight issues...

First, at the point in time Weir wrote the novel, he was unaware that there's large amounts of a salt in the soil, which would likely kill any plants or kill any humans eating them if it's not removed first:

There’s just one problem that Weir didn’t address, because he didn’t know about when he wrote the novel: Martian soil has perchlorates, a type of salt that’s hazardous to the human body. The perchlorates would either make it more difficult for plants to grow, or would make the plants toxic. The solution is actually very simple, but it wasn’t included in the book or movie. “You can literally just rinse them out of the soil,” Weir says. “Wash the soil, soak it in water, and the water would wash the perchlorates away.”

This is slightly problematic because water shortage was an issue for Watney, too.. but, it's surmountable.

The other issue is that using human waste to add nutrients introduces pathogens that could similarly make anyone eating them ill. Weir addresses this as well, by making Watney only use poop that has his own pathogens. All of the poop from his fellows was left out in temperatures that would kill the pathogens off entirely.

Eating food grown from someone else’s poop, in other words, can get you sick. In Watney’s’s case, he uses his own poop, so he would contract only the pathogens he already has. “You can get away with it in a desperate survival situation, where you are a single person using your own manure to grow crops that only you eat,” Weir says.

But Watney also uses the crew’s leftover waste from the station’s toilet, which could mean that he could have contracted his crew members’ pathogens as well. (The movie isn’t as gross as it sounds, we promise.) This is addressed with a bit of explanation in the book, but isn’t said explicitly in the film.

“The crew’s waste was all completely desiccated, freeze-dried, and then dumped out on the surface of Mars and bagged,” Weir says. “Any pathogens in there would have been dead.”

As a note, most of the science in The Martian has been pretty solidly backed up because Weir did a lot of work studying the science and learning what he needed to so that he could write a very realistic story.

"The Martian" is hitting cinemas right about now, and already it is being heralded as one of the most scientifically accurate sci-fi films of all time. We’ve seen the movie, and we’ve got to say, it’s amazing how far we’ve come since "Armageddon" (shudder). NASA has been so impressed, they've been using the movie as a marketing campaign for their own, actual manned missions to Mars in the 2030s.

And, as a bonus, it seems that some at NASA actually believe the soil may be usable as is:

In the movie, after becoming stranded on the surface, Watney resorts to using a combination of his own excrement, water, and Martian soil to grow potatoes. But would Martian soil actually be of any use? Isn’t it sterile and dead?

“In terms of basic mineral content and chemical content, yes it would be possible to grow plants in Martian soil,” said Lavery. “We actually have experiments going on right now using simulated Mars soil, and it indicates that’s a very realistic idea.”

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    In the book (which could be irrelevant to an answer on this site since they don't mention it in the movie), Watney also a small supply of "potting soil" that they brought with them from Earth for him to do his botany experiments. He mixed that with his initial small batch of Martian soil that after it became "usable", he continued to divide out. – krillgar Jan 28 '16 at 12:41
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    If the cold killed the pathogens, would it have not also killed the helpful bacteria? – Neil McGuigan Oct 29 '18 at 17:58

This is a good question because it relates to how we are destroying our own soil here on earth and how we can save ourselves.

The first thing is that although table salt and rock salt are bad as are the perchlorates in the Martian soil many salts are mixed salts like those found in sea water or volcanic hot water vents. These salts are the ones that plants can actually use in low dosages. Pure salts are often more deadly to plants because they can occur in amounts and concentrations that are past the level of usefulness plants might find acceptable and are into the level of toxicity that disrupts cell membranes of plant roots or draws all available water into the salt and away from the plant.
Mixed salts are actually what provides most of the micronutrients in the ground to plants. Salts is such a broad term because there are thousands and maybe millions of different ones.

So, the next part about the poop. This is only a question for us in our modern age that we have to wonder about because we have moved away from farm life and living naturally on the earth so we don't have experience with the manure pile, cleaning up the out house or composting. The main this is not the diseases. The main thing is microbe population that has all of its niches filled so that the complete decomposition cycle can work. If it does work then the potato will fill its portion of the cycle fulfilling its niche and everything will carry on in its own self perpetuating way. The potato will grow and maybe then the diseases will come into the picture or maybe not.

The key here is that this is a system. He may not have brought with him in his gut enough of the system to set up the cycle in the first place. We can only hope that he has never had antibiotics cause that would kill about a third of his natural intestinal flora. Also, our world of chlorinated and Florinated water on Earth acts similar to the perchlorate problem on Mars and may have killed a bunch of more microbes ( or made them tough and resistant, who knows)in his intestines.

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    Can you quote some references for your claims: "We are destroying our own soil", "Mixed salts are actually what provides most of the micronutrients in the ground to plants", "Also, our world of chlorinated and Florinated water on Earth acts similar to the perchlorate problem on Mars" – Johnny Jan 28 '16 at 21:45

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