In Pulp Fiction, Vincent and Jules killed all the guys at Brett's apartment for stealing the briefcase from Marsellus Wallace but not Marvin.
Why didn't Vincent and Jules kill Marvin in the apartment?
asked Jul 8, 2012 at 6:51
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7Seems to me that Vincent did, which is why the Wolf had to called in to oversee the clean up of the mess. "Oh man, I shot Marvin in the face!" :P– PoloHoleSetSep 23, 2016 at 15:55
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It's never explicitly said in the film, but if we listen closely to the apartment scene we can understand that Marvin was their informant within that group. Here is the script of the scene.
Jules - "We should have shotguns for this kinda deal."
Vincent - "How many are up there?"
Jules - "Three or four."
Vincent - "That's counting our guy?"
Jules - "Not sure."
Vincent - "So that means there could be up to five guys up there?"
Jules - "It's possible."
When Vincent says "That's counting our guy", it means Marvin was their guy who's the informant. After shooting Brett and the others, Vincent says to Jules, "Do you know this guy?" and Jules responds, "Yeah". This is why they didn't shoot him.
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answered Jul 8, 2012 at 6:51
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18My interpretation of this scene has always been that "our guy" was Brett, the man who stole the briefcase and their target. Shooting the rest of the residents was collateral damage, and Marvin escaped (initial) death by sheer luck and Jules not being eager to pull his trigger again after the bloodbath. But that doesn't mean your interpretation is wrong, and I kind of like it. It's been a while since I've watched that scene. Jul 8, 2012 at 18:24
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1@GalapagosJim Brett wasn't their guy. He was, along with the guy laying on the sofa and the one in the bathroom, associated with Wallace's business, but he wasn't his guy, I think. What I got from the scene is that they were working with Wallace, not for.– AlenannoAug 5, 2012 at 11:44
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2I do believe that Marvin's name is not asked of him, but Jules does know his name. So it is 'their guy', because Jules knows him.– GeertenOct 5, 2012 at 9:24
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1@Geerten; they already knew ALL of the boys names before they got there. He addresses them by name before they say anything. He being Jules. They being the boys. Brett is first to be addressed by name.– user6131Sep 15, 2013 at 13:18
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6If Marvin is their guy, then why would he become so shocked and scared (murmuring I'm fucked. several times) after they massacred Brett? I mean, if he is really an informant, he definitely knows that Jules and Vincent are gonna kill Brett, and wouldn't get so appalled.– VimFeb 12, 2016 at 17:36
They did not kill Marvin because he was part of Wallace's network and was an informer in the gang.
Remember they asked "why didn't you tell us there was a man in the kitchen with a god damn cannon?" or something like that. This shows that they were expecting him to provide this info and logically he was their man (mentioned in the hallway).
If they had killed him then there would be little incentive for people to inform on gangs that had betrayed Wallace in the future. This is also, probably, why Jules and Vincent are uninterested in the excuses "You're ass ain't talking your way out of this" because regardless of what they say the hitmen know their true plan from Marvin.
According to Phil LaMarr (actor who played Marvin), from his AMA (Ask Me Anything) post on Reddit /r/IAMA, it's because (emphasis mine):
The back story that Quentin and I talked about was that Marvin and Jules had people in common and when this briefcase thing went down Jules was able to get in touch w/ Marvin and offered these guys who were holed up, scared and obviously way out of their depth a way to resolve this. "All you have to do is make sure the door is unlocked at 7:45." He didn't know exactly how it was going to be resolved and he wasn't street-smart enough to figure that the resolution might have a significant cost.
answered Oct 5, 2012 at 7:10
I think that marvin was his informant, but was going to try to double cross Jules and Vincent. THAT'S why the guy was in the bathroom with a gun. Jules himself says, we should be dead. Divine intervention stopping the bullets? That's why Vince gets so upset at Marvin for 'forgetting' that the guy was in the bathroom with a hand cannon. Jules' attention is focused on that they weren't killed. Later, divine justice is laid upon Marvin for his attempt at a double cross, when he gets shot in the face.
I think that, if Jules attention hasn't been distracted, they might have killed Marvin in the apartment. Because of the total screwup.
Marvin was a nobody. Signified by Wolf later, who described him as 'nobody who'll be missed'.
Just my opinion.
Marvin was an informant, when you first see Vincent meet Marcellus earlier in the movie at the bar , as they hug Vincent whistlers,”man I’m really sorry”. And Marcellus replies “you shouldn’t worry about it” as he looks over Vincent’s dorky clothes. why would vincent apologise? They got the briefcase back which was their mission. My assumption is that they were supposed to bring Marvin back as he was a known associate of Marcellus but Vincent accidentally shot him, that’s why he apologises.
Well for starters, Marvin was their informant and Brett, Roger (guy on the couch) and Man #4 (hand cannon guy, guy in bathroom) were the targets.
Man #4 could have survived if he had stayed in the bathroom. Anyhow, Marvin was not purposely killed because he was ratting his fellow pencil-neck college students out so he could live.
A choice he later regretted (as you can see when Brett is killed) but due to Vincent Vega's poor gun safety skills, Marvin gets his head blown off.
Also the reason it all happened in the first place was because Brett and his friends refused to give up the brief case for whatever reason.
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2Just like Vince would have survived if he stayed in the bathroom. Foreshadowing boom.– cdeJul 29, 2016 at 18:47