In the movie "The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug", when Thorin & Company leave from Esgaroth to Erebor by boat, the whole city is cheering them. Shortly after, Kili (who is wounded and was ordered to stay behind by Thorin), Fili, Oin and Bofur knock on Bard's door asking him to help them (with Kili's wound). Bofur mentions that no one will help them.

That seems odd and not very credible to me after just watching the whole city displaying their support for them. They got armour, weapons and food but no one will treat an injured dwarf? Note that Bofur specifically says no one will help them and not that no one can help them (e.g. due to lacking knowledge in wound treatment). And why do they go to Bard in the first place? That guy has just been publicly ridiculed and humiliated by Thorin.

Anything I have missed?

  • If I remember the movie right, the people displayed quite a dislike for the dwarfs (they were ready to lynch them or something). They only cheered Thorin after (and because) he promised them gold and riches. But, Kili & co. weren't part of the group that would bring them anything, so I assume that the dislike stayed. Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 17:13
  • @VedranŠego Yes, they weren't part of the group at that time. But surely it would put the citizens of Esgaroth in a bad position for demanding their share if Kili succumbs to his wound and Thorin gets to know that his nephew died due to refusal of medical assistance?
    – ben
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 17:32
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    They didn't seem to be planning that far ahead. But I do agree that my explanation is weak; that's why I didn't offer it as an answer. Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 18:17
  • @VedranŠego You still have a point there I think. They definitely aren't portrayed as particularly smart or forward-thinking (with the exception of Bard).
    – ben
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 21:10
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    @VedranŠego The whole plot line with Kili's wound, Thorin leaving him behind and the attack on Bard's home does not occur in the book. As for the people of Esgaroth, there are some passages which suggest a certain fickleness and disregard to repercussions (IIRC).
    – ben
    Commented Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55

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Kili's wound was used to promote the relationship between him and Tauriel. As pointed out before it doesn't occur in the book. The people of Esgaroth, basically having been robbed blind by the "master", are naturally mistrustful of just about anyone. I would say they went to Bard, because he had aided them before and felt they could trust him. Plus they really had no place else to turn.

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