In BCS 6/2 Carrot and Stick, Mike (working on behalf of Gus) plants stuff in new safe in Nacho's house, including a phone number. It is implied that he intends for the cartel to find it and they do. Bolsa calls the number and motel desk answers with the name of the motel. This gives the Cartel a reason to look into the motel and as a result, the Twins show up and almost catch Nacho. Why was this done by Gus and why would Mike go along with it if indeed Gus wanted it?

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    This is actually a good question. Given Mike's professed respect for Nacho, it does strike me as odd that he would go along with that plan. Also, the fact that if the cartel took Nacho alive then he might be tortured into revealing Gus' part in harming the Salamanca's interests and the assassination attempt on Lalo. Gus is a very careful man and the only risks he is shown taking are carefully calculated. As far as I can recall, the show doesn't address Mike or Gus' thought processes behind what went on here. Oct 10, 2022 at 20:40
  • Yeah, that is exactly right: Nacho was a millisecond-decision from being captured at the motel and then tortured -- the only very subtle thing that occurs to me is that perhaps someone wanted to bring down Gus -- it could not have been Mike because Mike liked Nacho; maybe Tyrus but I do not find that too convincing.
    – releseabe
    Oct 10, 2022 at 23:05
  • I don't think Tyrus would do anything like that without a go-ahead from Gus. Oct 11, 2022 at 8:11
  • @GeoffAtkins Yeah and also, Tyrus would probably be killed by cartel without Gus, not inherit his empire. This thing simply does not make sense, worst idea ever and there is no way it was not planned. He was so close to being caught: in the motel parking lot or even in the oil truck -- one of the Twins was literally with 20 feet of him and I believe Nacho was holding his breathe which could have expired any second while the Twin was watching.
    – releseabe
    Oct 11, 2022 at 8:40
  • Added some context in an edit, releasable. I think you were getting downvoted because there were some things you did not make clear.
    – ruffdove
    Oct 17, 2022 at 3:48

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It was a gamble, but here's the logic (I think)

Giving the cartel Nacho's location in the form of the phone number and then telling Nacho to stay at the motel, definitely runs the risk of Nacho getting captured an tortured into giving up Gus, but there are two things that mitigate that risk:

  1. The provide Nacho with a gun, which makes it much less likely that he will be taken alive. Nacho could force the cartel to kill him in self defense. Further, he knows what awaits him if he gets captured, so he would be very likely to kill himself if cornered.

  2. Nacho knows what Gus will do to his father is he gives up Gus.

The phone number was not the only thing in the safe. There was also a paper record of a bank statement that I believe was supposed to make it look like Nacho took payment from a third party--Alvarez and Los Odios from Peru. This is more evidence pointing away from Gus.

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