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I noticed for the newest episodes of WandaVision that are coming out that some versions of them are tagged as 60 FPS. I don't recall previously seeing 60 FPS explicitly marked on any other TV shows or streaming content.

Apparently the previous standard was:

24fps – This is the standard for movies and TV shows, and it was determined to be the minimum speed needed to capture video while still maintaining realistic motion. Even if a film is shot at a higher frame rate, it’s often produced and displayed at 24 FPS. Most feature films and TV shows are shot and viewed at 24 FPS.

WandaVision is certainly not a show with a lot of busy scenes nor does it seem like there are a lot of slow-mo effects - which usually seems like a good use of 60 FPS. In fact, a lot of the "modern day" scenes in WandaVision actually look quite amateurish cinematography wise; it almost looks like a High School film project in parts. Could it be that the higher FPS makes it look worse?

Is 60 FPS becoming the new standard for TV?

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  • Is there any chance they are referring to (NTSC) fields per second? Feb 14 '21 at 5:14
  • @JamesMcLeod - they actually register as 60 fps in my onscreen widget. Somebody upsampled them intentionally.
    – Tetsujin
    Feb 14 '21 at 8:04
  • Oh. Cool! Thanks for the info! Feb 14 '21 at 11:56
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I see nothing relating to this on either Wikipedia or IMDB. You'd think if they were trying some new format, they'd want to tell people about it.

BTW, 24fps is traditional cinema; TV is 25 PAL/SECAM [Europe] or 29.97 NTSC [America/Japan].

Artificially interpolating to 60 fps [called Sport mode on some TVs] can make regular cinematic imagery look awful. The eye/brain expects motion blur on cinematic productions, so much so that if it's artificially reduced it looks odd. The brain expects this so much that sometimes it's actally artificially increased, to make action look 'even more cinematic than cinema'. This was one of the things they had to learn in CGI too, to make things look more realistic.
When the Hobbit was first released at 48fps, this lack of motion blur was what people were complaining about - whether they realised why it bothered them or not.

Without knowing what the source of these 60fps versions is all I can do is voice is my suspicion that these have been done by the same people who are confused by the teen gaming interweb meme voodoo that games are 'better' at higher fps.

Edit
A quick google shows the only source to be clueless interwebz bozos on YouTube, as surmised.

The official trailers are all at approx 25 fps (my onscreen fps widget measures actual, which varies slightly, not transmitted.)

In short; don't mess with things you don't understand. Allow that the people who made the show and spent millions of dollars doing so probably know what they're doing.

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  • I'm seeing it in Chinese actually: 60帧版. I'm not sure where they're getting their info - but it's intriguing.
    – Mou某
    Feb 13 '21 at 19:34
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    The artificial 60 fps is called the 'soap opera effect' (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_interpolation#Soap_opera_effect), so considering the setting of the show...
    – magarnicle
    Feb 15 '21 at 0:01
  • Ah, yes. It's a term I know - but they wouldn't do that to old 'squarevision' black & white, would they. BTW, the "watching a behind the scenes featurette" aspect is precisely what I've always called LCD television's attempt at rendering movies, or to use my exact definition "the making of…" (I skipped LCD myself, I held onto plasma until OLED came along).
    – Tetsujin
    Feb 15 '21 at 7:45
  • Games are generally better at higher FPS. If you have tried playing an action game at 24 FPS, you'll notice that its hardly playable and actually can be very bothersome to look at. Honestly, the 24 FPS movies bother me as well: there are times when you can really see just how jerky they are.
    – Obie 2.0
    Jan 8 at 7:59
  • @Obie2.0 - if a film looks jerky at 24fps, then it's either a poor conversion, low quality stream, or a bad interpolation down from your screen's natural sync rate. Some TVs will change sync rate to match. My old plasma used to, my new OLED doesn't, but it interpolates pretty well considering.
    – Tetsujin
    Jan 8 at 8:08

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