In Joker, did Murray invite Arthur to the talk show to mock and humiliate him, like Arthur surmised or was there another reason - trying to help him, understand him, get him to tell his story and explanation for his bizarre behaviours?

Also what can be inferred about Murray's personality? Is he an asshole who makes mocks of anyone or just a genuine dude who got an assignment to target someone and did it?

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    Why do anyone invite people from viral videos to their show/channel in the real life?
    – user28434
    Commented Dec 20, 2019 at 8:57

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I doubt that the reason behind Murray's inviting Arthur was to help him or get famous.
He clearly was mocking him. For example when he implied that Arthur laughed in his stand up comedy performance because he thought laughing so much would force the viewers to laugh too (suggesting that he was bad at jokes so he chose this as an alternate way to entertain people instead)

Also, Murray's face expressions clearly explained that he was taunting Arthur through every word that he spoke, and that he was not being amused by any of his jokes. He had just called him to increase the ratings of his show by interviewing a person who had gone viral because of his weird behavior. (Laughing previously during his performance instead of doing comedy)

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    This is the correct answer. The real life late night talk show host David Letterman was known for inviting quirky people onto his show and subtly mocking them, especially if they had low social awareness. See also the movie American Splendor. Commented Jan 17, 2020 at 12:45
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    Note also that even Murray's introduction of Joker was significantly mean, listing how Arthur needs help from a doctor. That is well beyond playful comedy and suggests that Arthur's read on Murray's intentions was spot on.
    – Flater
    Commented Jul 4, 2021 at 19:04

The movie does not answer this (and indeed, does not even make clear that Fleck was ever even invited, this may have been entirely in his head).

I prefer to believe that the invitation was real and that Murray’s motives were not merely to make fun of Arthur. Showing the clip of the lousy performance and then having Arthur give another lousy performance live would have been bad television, and Murray is, if nothing else, a good television host.

So I like to imagine that he was hoping that Arthur could defy the studio audience’s expectations, have a successful (or even semi-sucessful) routine, and have people cheering for his bravery at taking the stage. A little bit like the William Hung experience on “American Idol”. Hung was a bad singer, but his bravery at taking the stage and his good spirit about the audience’s reaction soon won them over. Murray was, I think, hoping for something similar.

  • Unless you would choose to believe the entire plot from the telephone invite right up to the shooting & the subsequent media & public reaction were also entirely in his head, then he must have been invited, else he wouldn't get past security on the door, let alone get a dressing room & have the chat with Murray before the show.
    – Tetsujin
    Commented Jan 13, 2020 at 8:47
  • @disassociated it would be totally reasonable to believe that all that, and more, is made up. We know he’s an u reliable narrator and are given cues about things that are fake, but none that we know are real. Commented Jan 13, 2020 at 12:40
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    "and Murray is, if nothing else, a good television host" If you take away the first Murray scene, where Arthur is invited on stage (as this was clearly a daydream), what specifically makes you feel that Murray is in fact a good television host? To the contrary, I would argue that how he introduces Arthur as a guest was unnecessarily mean and well beyond a well spirited comedic jab.
    – Flater
    Commented Jul 4, 2021 at 19:07

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