In the last episode of game of thrones, Sansa asks that the North becomes independent and Bran allows it.

Seeing this, Why didn't the other rulers ask for the same thing?

Especially Dorne and the Iron Islands.

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    not every kingdom can self sustain
    – Ankit Sharma
    Commented May 22, 2019 at 3:49
  • Iron islands has on off been indepened of riverrun.. true.. why would they be under Bran, they should have asked for independence. The other kingdoms may have the self sustainability part an issue.. why the iron islands are a part of 6 kingdoms I dont get
    – Anu7
    Commented May 22, 2019 at 3:59
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    scifi.stackexchange.com/q/212830/15706 same thing asked on SFF & the brilliant accepted answer states that Sansa was smart enough to wait for other people to say Aye & then made her demand. Other people who already said aye can't go back on their words Commented May 22, 2019 at 4:44

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I accept and agree with the answer that was given on SFF (“Sansa was smart enough to wait for everyone to say aye, so they can’t go back on their word”).

However in my opinion there could also be the fact that, the north has always had its own sort of “culture” and independence, there is a certain respect between northern houses. So it’s easier for the other kingdoms to accept them as independent, since they’ve always, culturally, been seen as seperate from the other six kingdoms.

On top of this, the north is the size of the other six kingdoms combined, so having them ruled independently makes much more sense, than in the other kingdoms cases.

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    Dorne and the Iron Islands have had much more of a culture of independence than the North.
    – Sefe
    Commented May 22, 2019 at 10:26
  • I do agree that they both have very strong cultures; however, both the Iron islands and Dorne are much smaller in comparison, the two have some of the smallest populations in Westeros. Thus it may be in their best interest to be part of the 6 kingdom alliance. They don’t have the power to be fully independent. Commented May 22, 2019 at 11:50

It wouldn't make much difference if they did officially seek independence. As a king with little or no family holdings, bannermen, or revenues, Bran would have little power over any of the southern kingdoms of Westeros -- and less ability to influence the North, even if he did reject Sansa's aspirations toward independence. Refusing to acknowledge a king would needlessly provoke a crisis.

The situation is similar to that of the Germanic kings and the later Holy Roman Empire (as well as other European regions) where the monarch was elected from among the peers of the realm. The Emperor would gain little more power than he already possessed, and the electors would have no interest in choosing someone likely to interfere with their own interests, let alone to give the position enough resources that it could be become problematic for them.

In Bran's case, he's now responsible for a devastated city in a region already ravaged by war and overrun with leaderless Dothraki, with no obvious sources of income. No wonder the other lords are happy to leave what's left of the Iron Throne to someone unlikely to bother them while they rebuild their own lands. The Iron Islands won't see the fleetless king as a threat and the Dornish lords in the far south were probably far enough away from winter and the war that they have the troops to fend off any aggressors.

You can see why King Bran is happy to leave it to Tyrion to clean up the mess...

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