In Avengers: Endgame...

Black Widow kills herself on Vormir to obtain the Soul Stone.

The instructions from Red Skull to receive the Soul Stone are that you must sacrifice that which you love the most.

Hawkeye didn't sacrifice anything.

He actively tried to stop it...and failed. How is this death sufficient?

edit - It is not the same as this question since I am asking about getting the soul stone out of Vormir, specifically in how they did it in Endgame. Not transferring it once it's been removed from Vormir

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    good point! what is someone went there alone and just jumped to their death, who gets the stone?
    – John
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 13:39
  • Possible duplicate of Does the Soul Stone always need a sacrifice?
    – Joachim
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 13:42
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    @Joachim That seems to be asking a very related but different question Commented May 10, 2019 at 13:44
  • It also undermines a certain part in Infinity war, where Gomorah tried to do the same thing that Black Widow did, and Thanos stopped her. If Black Widow's action was sufficient, then Thanos didn't need to stop Gomorah. Commented May 10, 2019 at 15:55
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    I think the sacrifice needs to be made off the cliff for it to count; Clint had already lost that which he loves (his family) and that didn't suffice. If so, Gamora's suicide would not suffice. Commented May 10, 2019 at 16:17

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Red Skull's instructions are you must lose that which you love not sacrifice it and Clint does lose what he loves.

Red Skull: In order to take the stone you must lose that which you love. A soul...For a soul.

Avengers: Infinity War

Red Skull: In order to take the stone, you must lose that which you love. An everlasting exchange. A soul, for a soul.

Avengers: Endgame

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    Red Skull's line right before the one quoted in infinity war... "To ensure that whoever possesses it, understand its power. The stone demands a sacrifice." I think this line even further implies that not only is it a sacrifice but that it has to be significant enough so that its power is "understood".
    – noslenkwah
    Commented May 10, 2019 at 14:45
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    @noslenkwah Nat sacrifices herself so there is a sacrifice. Commented May 10, 2019 at 14:46
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    @DougDawson Clint and Nat were like brother and sister. They've been close since we first see them together and Clint trusts Nat enoguh to let her know about his family to the point of the kids calling her auntie and naming their next child after her. I think it's safe to say Clint loved Nat too. Commented May 10, 2019 at 15:16
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    @TheLethalCarrot Absolutely. My perception of the OP's question was that Clint didn't chuck Black Widow off the cliff and they weren't tied by blood (or kidnapping?), so there wasn't a sacrifice. My point is that Clint and Nat were fighting to BE the sacrifice. Furthermore, I contend that if you put any other Avenger up on the cliff, I bet it would have still worked because of her love for her "family" and her commitment to the cause. Commented May 10, 2019 at 15:24
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    @Alex His family weren't lost. The whole point of the expedition was to return them! Hypothetically Red Skull might have bought the "I already paid the price" argument, but if so, his family would fail to return. Commented May 10, 2019 at 16:42

Hawkeye doesn't love her as a mate but he does cherish her very much. To the point of willing to be the one who dies, leaving his wife and children who are supposed to reappear. Can you imagine dying while you have possibility of meeting your family once more?

This is why Natasha's death is enough as a tribute to let Hawkeye have the Soul Stone.

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