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In Game of Thrones S8E04 when Daenerys meets with Cersei, and Tyrion says aloud that Cersei is pregnant, did anyone else other than Jamie, Tyrion, Euron and Qyburn (Cersei's Hand) know about it? I.e., is there any plausible way of Tyrion finding out about Cersei's pregnancy without her telling him?

If not, I could see this causing issues between Cersei and Euron since she only recently told him about it, so how else would Tyrion also know unless it happened much earlier?

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  • Are you unsure when Tyrion learned of it? youtube.com/watch?v=wVG81Y8bt98
    – BCdotWEB
    Commented May 7, 2019 at 22:12
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    No, I remember how he learned of it. Cersei held her stomach when they talked. What I'm asking about is if there's any way that Tyrion could of learned about her pregnancy after Cersei and Euron slept together... otherwise it would perhaps be true that Tyrion learned about it much earlier (like when he actually did) thus raising suspension with Euron that the child isn't in fact his.
    – Skywalker89
    Commented May 7, 2019 at 22:15
  • I am not 100% sure, But I think the baby is Jaime's and not Euron. I think Jaime's said something to Tyrion about a baby before the battle
    – StackOne
    Commented May 7, 2019 at 23:50
  • Cersei is skeptical but agrees, and tells Jaime that she is pregnant. Daenerys and Jon meet with Cersei in the Dragonpit on the outskirts of King's Landing Found this is Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cersei_Lannister
    – StackOne
    Commented May 7, 2019 at 23:53

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People who think the baby is Jaime's: Jaime, Tyrion, Cersei

Jaime S7 E5 CERSEI lifts her hands from the chair and places them both on her stomach indicating she's pregnant. Jaime looks shocked.

JAIME: Who will you say is the father?

CERSEI: You.

Tyrion S7 E7 Cersei cradles her belly and Tyrion notices. She takes a deep breath.

CERSEI: That thing you dragged here, I know what it is, I know what it means. And when it came at me, I didn't think about the world. Not at all. As soon as it opened its mouth, the world disappeared for me, right down its black throat. All I could think about was keeping those gnashing teeth away from the ones who matter most, away from my family. Maybe Euron Greyjoy had the right idea. Get on a boat, take those who matter.

TYRION: You're pregnant.

People who think the baby is Euron's: Euron, Cersei, Qyburn

So when Tyrion talks about the baby in S8E4, he means Jamie's and Cersei's baby. He does not know about the Euron+Cersei "baby". He has no idea about the Euron baby as Euron, Qyburn and Cersei discuss it just moments after Danaerys' boats are ambushed by Eurons fleet. And there is no way this information would have reached Varys and Tyrion so quickly. Also if he knew the baby's was Eurons, we can safely assume he wouldn't care that much as opposed to the baby being Jamie and Cersei's.

ALSO,

When Tyrion goes up to Cersei to tell her to consider things with her baby in her mind, he's doing one of the two things:

  1. Genuinely thinking for the good of Jamie and Cersei's baby and advising her to think of the baby.
  2. Knows how Cersei keeps her men bound to her by lying and manipulation. Cleverly throwing in a baby shade aiming at Euron, to get into his head and if possible turn him against Cersei by talking about about Cersei and Jamie's baby. So that if Euron knows about a baby, he may back off support to Cersei. Tyrion knows his sister and probably knows Euron is in the Cersei basket for the sleaziness of it.

ALSO,

People who actually know if the baby is real or a thrones move: Cersei and Qyburn.

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  • I'm not sure about Qyburn thinking the baby is Euron's. Presumably he would have been the one to tell Cersei that she's pregnant before she told Jaime, so he'd know that the pregnancy came before Cersei and Euron slept together.
    – Anthony Grist
    Commented May 9, 2019 at 13:54
  • Yes I mean that. Qyburn and Cersei are the only ones who know exactly whose the baby is. Or if theres even a baby.
    – Anu7
    Commented May 9, 2019 at 17:04

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