In Avengers: Endgame, Tony has a conversation with his father. In it, his father mentions his wife is pregnant and Tony inquires about 'how far along is she?'

Something about Tony's reactions in this conversation suggested to me that something was amiss. As I remember it, they knew the date they were returning to, and presumably, he knows his own birth date, and the way the dialogue panned out suggested to me at least that these two things were incongruent.

So is there something to this, or did I misread the scene?


It seems nothing more than just a part of a conversation and a need to keep it going.

However, Tony didn't really have any meaningful conversation with his father before and this conversation allowed him to finally connect with him. And he never got to tell his father that he loves him. So, basically, he ends up saying thanks and loves him.

Besides this, there could be more than that. As Hollywood Reporter says,

For Tony Stark, his conversation with his father Howard (John Slattery) in 1970 is the final means for him to expel the corrosive energy that had grown in him since the events of Captain America: Civil War. But, it also redefines his own role as a father. Tony’s admittance to Howard that his father did the best he could with what he had is the very thing that drives him to sacrifice his life in order to ensure a future for his daughter.

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    I understand the significance of the wider scene. But it's specifically the dialogue when they're in the elevator around his own birth which suggested something more to me. – KorbanDallas May 1 at 6:09
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    @KorbanDallas I had the same thought. I was expecting him to find out he had an older sibling he didn't know about or something like that. – Darren May 1 at 11:25
  • @Darren Yes! Exactly my feeling too. I'm glad I'm not the only one. – KorbanDallas May 1 at 12:23

I noticed that scene as well. However, to me it just seemed that he forgot his birthday and was trying to figure out when he would be born.

He was trying to place "today" with respect to his birthday.

I also remember that he guesstimated the date on which they traveled - so wouldn't have thought too much about it.

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    If they guesstimated when they were returning to then that might explain it, as you said they're trying to pin down the exact date of 'today' - although presumably there are easier ways to do that. The only other thing I thought was that maybe Tony knew the date and was simply 'playing the role' acting like he didn't know how far along Howard's wife was. But the feeling I got from the scene was that it was some sort of 'reveal' which doesn't really match that explanation either. – KorbanDallas May 1 at 6:11

There is not a single reference in the Marvel timeline that does not have some significance. I found this on Wikipedia.

Stark married Maria Collins Carbonell and together they had a son, and adopted Anthony "Tony" Stark.


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    That's interesting. In the MCU, has it always been known that Tony was adopted, or is this our first hint? – KorbanDallas May 6 at 0:54

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