In Tangled, when Mother Gothel stabbing Eugene, is it possible for him to die that fast from that wound?
asked Dec 12, 2018 at 5:46
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3I think it depend on targeted organ and shock value too.– Ankit Sharma ♦Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 5:59
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I'm not sure about it– Shehnaz AmeerCommented Dec 12, 2018 at 6:28
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I forgot where exactly she stab, any screenshot or detail you got for stab position ?– Ankit Sharma ♦Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 6:30
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Dying from a stab can depend on a couple of things such as the targeted organ, depth of the stab, and lastly pain.
We can see he was stabbed on the right side around the ribs. That's where your lung, diaphragm and liver are. The stab might have affected the intestines as well. We can see that she stabbed him with a big knife, so the wound might be deep. And lastly the pain, a stab wound can cause too much pain which may not be easy to endure.
So, this kind of stab wound can cause a person to die very quickly.
Credits to Galastel, loss of blood can also be a reason behind death.
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1I haven't seen the movie, but could it be they fainted from the pain, making it look like they died, only to actually die later?– JADCommented Dec 12, 2018 at 12:41
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1@JAD Quite impossible. One might faint from the pain immediately after taking a wound, or having made some sharp movement that would aggravate the pain. One doesn't faint from pain after lying in one's beloved's arms for a while, telling her how much one loves her. One can feint from blood loss, but in such a case pain is irrelevant. In fact, one might feel little pain, bleed internally, and die from blood loss. Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:01
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9You can't die of pain. Whatever causes pain - that can kill. Chronic pain can be enough of a stress to make you more susceptible to disease etc., thus indirectly killing you. But pain from a wound can't kill. Worst it can do is make you lose consciousness. Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:02
Contrary to what @AJ says, you can't die of pain. Whatever causes pain - that can kill. Chronic pain can be enough of a stress to make you more susceptible to disease etc., thus indirectly killing you. But pain from a wound can't kill. Worst it can do is make you lose consciousness.
The location of the wound is too low to involve the lungs. However, there's a kidney there, and the liver, if Mother Gothel stabbed upwards. If the knife transected the renal vein (that's the vein that drains the kidney), which is quite likely considering the location of the wound, the bleeding from that vein alone (not counting other damage) would drain half of Eugene's total blood volume and kill him in 5 minutes. He'd lose consciousness from blood loss in less time than that - about 2 minutes.
You might say "but we don't see that much blood". Setting aside for a moment the fact that this is Disney, and Eugene doesn't get cut on the piece of broken glass he uses to cut Rapunzel's hair either, most of the bleeding would actually be internal - he'd be bleeding into the abdominal cavity. So you wouldn't see all that much blood on the floor.
answered Dec 12, 2018 at 12:19
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The first part should maybe be a comment on A J's answer instead of part of this answer. And you're absolutely right about that part. Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 12:24
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Wouldn't severing an artery cause way more bleeding than a vein?– JADCommented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:05
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@JAD sure. The renal artery is sort of behind the renal vein though. Coming from the front, Mother Gothel is more likely to cut the vein. If you got to the renal artery from the front, chances are you've gone through the inferior vena cava, in which case the renal artery is not the biggest problem. (That is, if I remember my anatomy correctly.) Commented Dec 12, 2018 at 13:14
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Somewhat less likely, you can die from shock, and shock can be caused by massive amounts of pain. But the rest of what was mentioned would be more likely to cause shock anyway. But yes, it wouldn't be the pain directly that's causing death anyway, but a parasympathetic response to it.– PoikCommented Dec 12, 2018 at 21:31