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Thanks to Rand al'Thor Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport:

Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport:

Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport:

Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

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Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

The answersThanks to this question showRand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from mywe know of that could and DVK's answers over therecouldn't work as international modes of transport:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

Portkeys - yes.

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, soThe answers to this question show that he or she is whisked awayPortkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from the match halfway throughmy and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

from France to the Burrow:

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think,The answers to this question show that did it,” says Bathildathere is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. “It cameFirstly, as an awful shock. Gellert was therestated in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a ditherKeithS's answer, told me he wanted to go homethis quote from the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey andbooks tells us that was the last I saw of himthere is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the skyThe following quote from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distancesAnd finally, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continentsRichard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo - unclear.

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia WildsmithAll the information we have in canon concerns the thirteenth centuryFloo Network within Britain. Its manufacture is strictly controlledThis includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The only licensed producer in Britain isinclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is Networks in Diagon Alleyother countries too, and who never answer their front doorbut doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport:

Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

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Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

The answers to this question show that Portkey travel can be international. Copying quotes from my and DVK's answers over there:

from various places to the Sahara desert:

"While there have been no proven referee slayings since [1357], there have been several incidences of broom-tampering over the centuries, the most dangerous being the transformation of the referee's broom into a Portkey, so that he or she is whisked away from the match halfway through and turns up months later in the Sahara Desert."

_{-- Kennilworthy Whisp, Quidditch Through the Ages}

from France to the Burrow:

Mr. Weasley had therefore gone to meet the Delacours on top of a nearby hill, where they were to arrive by Portkey

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 6: The Ghoul In Pyjamas}

from Godric's Hollow to eastern Europe:

“It was poor little Ariana dying, I think, that did it,” says Bathilda. “It came as an awful shock. Gellert was there in the house when it happened, and he came back to my house all of a dither, told me he wanted to go home the next day. Terribly distressed, you know. So I arranged a Portkey and that was the last I saw of him

_{HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 19, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore}

Apparition - usually no.

The answers to this question show that there is some confusion and contradiction over whether or not Apparition can be international. Firstly, as stated in KeithS's answer, this quote from the books tells us that there is a limit on the distance even a skilled wizard can Apparate:

Harry knew it; his scar was bursting with the pain of it, and he could feel Voldemort flying through the sky from far away, over a dark and stormy sea, and soon he would be close enough to Apparate to them, and Harry could see no way out.

_{-- HP and the Deathly Hallows, Chapter 23: Malfoy Manor}

The following quote from Kevin's answer tells us that it is possible but risky to Apparate across continents:

Apparition becomes increasingly unreliable over very long distances, and only highly skilled wizards are wise to attempt it across continents.

_{-- Quidditch Through the Ages, Chapter 9}

And finally, Richard's answer tells us that Apparition between countries is banned.

Floo - unclear.

All the information we have in canon concerns the Floo Network within Britain. This includes the latest articles from Pottermore by JK Rowling. Quoting from the second of these sources:

Floo powder was invented by Ignatia Wildsmith in the thirteenth century. Its manufacture is strictly controlled. The only licensed producer in Britain is Floo-Pow, a company whose Headquarters is in Diagon Alley, and who never answer their front door.

The inclusion of the words "in Britain" would seem to suggest that there are Floo Networks in other countries too, but doesn't tell us whether they're connected.

#Why did Newt use a normal, muggl—NoMaj's mode of transport

We know from the movie Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them that Newt didn't want to be detected by the MACUSA, and we know that most magical modes of transport (including apparition and floo transport) can be traced, detected or otherwise tampered with. From this we can infer that Newt used a conventional NoMaj form of transport to decrease the likelihood of alerting the authorities.

An out-of-universe explanation might be that it is a dramatically boring way to introduce us, the audience, to Newt's arrival to America, compared to the gorgeous, The Godfather II-esque imagery of the immigrant ship. It also serves, dramatically, to tell us, the audience, that he is a foreigner in the US, much like we are alien to a magical 1920's America set in the Potterverse, and the movie can achieve this introduction without a single word of exposition to explain it.

^{_{Note: A lot of this is speculation until confirmation starts inevitably pouring in from recent interviews with JK Rowling (and the rest of production team).}}

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Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Floo - unclear.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.

Thanks to Rand al'Thor, here's a run-down of modes of transport that we know of that could and couldn't work as international modes of transport: Portkeys - yes.

Apparition - usually no.

Floo - unclear.