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May 31 '20 at 8:33 answer LazyReader timeline score: 0
May 29 '20 at 6:59 history edited F1Krazy CC BY-SA 4.0
Removing the second question in order to focus it, and prevent any more answers that only focus on the second part
May 29 '20 at 6:58 comment added F1Krazy I'm going to take the liberty of editing out your second question. This post is swamped with people who are only answering that second part and completely ignoring the first part, which is the one you actually want to know about. Feel free to roll it back if you disagree, but I personally think the question needs focusing.
May 29 '20 at 4:01 answer AryanSonwatikar timeline score: 2
Jun 6 '18 at 17:23 comment added Jaideep Khare Avengers : Infinity War! (I know it has a sequel set in 2019, but still)
Mar 27 '17 at 4:15 comment added natural I believe it attracts more attention if the good guy wins the fight and so the bad guy looks weak.
Feb 12 '16 at 18:58 comment added RobertF @DarrelHoffman - Right, but Shakespearean tragedies aren't quite the same thing. I'm thinking more along the lines of movies where villains with a capital "V" are plotting a huge heist or want to take over the world. There hasn't been a James Bond film where the villain succeeds (at least temporarily) with his plans and Bond is killed. I understand that might turn off some viewers, but I bet a lot of jaded movie-goers would pay money to see an unconventional ending.
Feb 11 '16 at 14:42 comment added Darrel Hoffman It used to be a lot more common. There are many, many operas and stage-plays with tragic endings. Greek plays are essentially divided into 2 categories, Comedy and Tragedy, the major difference being who wins at the end. Shakespeare operated on the same principle, as did many opera composers. If you want a big category of tragic movies, look for ones based on Shakespeare - there's dozens of Romeo & Juliet, Hamlet, Othello, or Macbeth productions, for example.
Feb 10 '16 at 22:27 comment added RBarryYoung This is largely a Hollywood thing. Movies with unhappy/unsatisfying/bad-guy-wins endings are much more common in European and independent movies.
Feb 10 '16 at 18:40 comment added Solomon Slow It's not the good guy who usually wins, it's the protagonist---the character with whom the audience identifies. Watching the protagonist win makes you feel like a winner. Watching the antagonist win makes you feel like a loser. Naturally, films that make people feel like winners will be more popular than films that make them feel like losers. Sometimes, a protagonist is a bad guy, but that's hard to pull off: Most viewers don't like to identify with evil any more than they like to identify with losers. Usually, a "bad" progagonist turns out to be good on some deeper level.
Feb 10 '16 at 14:35 history edited Napoleon Wilson CC BY-SA 3.0
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Feb 10 '16 at 13:04 comment added cde This is what Wiki Posts/Community Wiki answers are supposed to be for. Create one, and let every minor answer be added to it, instead of multiple short answers.
Feb 10 '16 at 12:58 comment added Baard Kopperud Bit OT, but you mentioned rules... I don't know if it was a fact - I saw it mentioned in a Norwegian book about crime-literature and movies - but in the book they claimed that the censors in the USA (I assume some official or semi-official movie-censor) demanded that the "bad-guy" got what he deserved, and that was the reason Cagny & Co. always ended up dead during the age of gangster-movies. Guess the idea was to show that "crime doesn't pay". So yes, there seems to have been a rule...
Feb 10 '16 at 11:31 answer gabe3886 timeline score: 18
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Feb 10 '16 at 8:01 answer slebetman timeline score: 13
Feb 10 '16 at 7:38 answer MichaelS timeline score: 7
Feb 10 '16 at 6:42 answer Eric Lippert timeline score: 44
Feb 10 '16 at 5:00 answer BrainSlugs83 timeline score: 25
Feb 10 '16 at 0:20 comment added Walt I'm sure the OP means well, but I'm sorry, this is currently a list question. It's also quite broad, and based on a false premise: A trope being extremely common doesn't mean the opposite of it isn't extremely common as well. There are many, many dark thrillers, horror movies and noir flicks where evil prevailing is the entire point.
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Feb 9 '16 at 22:53 answer Black timeline score: 19
Feb 9 '16 at 22:12 comment added GreenMatt Are movies "inspired by real life" (or whatever phrase they use) included?
Feb 9 '16 at 20:57 history edited Andrew Martin CC BY-SA 3.0
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Feb 9 '16 at 20:45 comment added cde And the parent trope that has even more examples tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DownerEnding
Feb 9 '16 at 20:44 comment added cde Heres an entire trope on it tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheBadGuyWins
Feb 9 '16 at 20:25 answer Andrew Martin timeline score: 143
Feb 9 '16 at 20:19 answer The Wandering Dev Manager timeline score: 13
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Feb 9 '16 at 19:53 history edited Napoleon Wilson CC BY-SA 3.0
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Feb 9 '16 at 19:44 history edited Catija CC BY-SA 3.0
Question title sounded like a request for list.
Feb 9 '16 at 19:44 history edited RobertF CC BY-SA 3.0
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