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I recently watched The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug. In the movie, there is one shot where Bilbo enters the Lonely Mountain to find the Arkenstone and accidentally awakens Smaug.

There is a converstion between Bilbo (while Bilbo wears the ring) and Smaug. I have a some questions about this:

  • How does Smaug reconize it is the One Ring?
  • Did Smaug know about Sauron?
  • And how does Smaug know that darkness is coming, whereas he is sleeping in the cave for many years?
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How did you get the impression that Smaug knew about the ring and Bilbo having it at all? –  Napoleon Wilson Apr 19 '14 at 12:13
I don't remember actual dialogue, but I just remember that Smug says as "You have somthing shiney and it doesn't belongs to you" (line is not perfet) –  shrikant1712 Apr 19 '14 at 12:42
Ah Ok. But I'm not sure that implies he really knows about the true nature of the ring. Yet I see it is a bit ambiguous. Interesting question after all. –  Napoleon Wilson Apr 19 '14 at 14:19
Now I'm going to need to re-read these, thanks .. but from a similar vein (D&D) I'd say that Smaug might be able to 'detect the magic' of the ring, although its concealment properties prevented him from precisely locating its location (plane shifting and all that.) –  CodeShane Apr 19 '14 at 14:34
@CodeShane Or he just sensed the more "material" qualities of it, since he seems to have a "feeling" for golden and "shiny" things. –  Napoleon Wilson Apr 19 '14 at 15:31

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This is a very interesting question, however things are quite different in the book and in the movie, the short answer is that Smaug probably didn't know about the ring nor Sauron, the long answer is explained below.

In the book Bilbo entered in the mountain 3 times, the first time Smaug is asleep and he steals a golden cup, he then returns to the dwarfs who convince him to enter Erebor again. The second time Smaug is awake and angry for the theft, he talks with Bilbo (who tricks him into showing his weak point) and despite talking about the cup he never said the exact sentence you quoted from the movie. The third time Bilbo enters the mountain togheter with the dwarves.
So I'd say that in the movie Smaug is referring to the ring, even though it isn't explained how he knew about it and this precise scene didn't happen in the book.

The second question is even harder to answer because, even in the extremely detailed universe created by Tolkien, very little is said about dragons (only 4 of them are actually named).
What we know is that dragons were originally bred by Morgoth and that Sauron (who was Morgoth's disciple) used them in the famous war of the rings so some dragons surely knew Sauron and the rings (4 of the rings given to the dwarves were melt by dragons).
We don't know a lot about Smaug, he is the last great dragon on Middle-Earth but there is no way to tell for sure wether he knew Sauron and the rings.

I'm not sure wether Smaug says something about the darkness incoming in the book (he doesn't in the dialogue with Bilbo, but I'd need to check wether he speaks in other parts of the book too), but he can probably just perceive it, since he can feel magic and Sauron is gathering a huge power.
I think this (and maybe Smaug knowing about the ring too) are details added by Jackson to contestualize the tale told in "The Hobbit" inside Tolkien's universe and timeline.

I confronted the most important details with online sources, but it has been a long time since I read "The Hobbit" and "The Silmarillion" so I may be missing some (potentially important) details

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Thanks nice answer –  shrikant1712 Apr 21 '14 at 6:41
4 dragons ? I think there are at least 6. (Ancalagon | Glaurung | Scatha | Smaug | Gostir | The Great Cold Drak) –  Francisco Corrales Morales Sep 15 '14 at 21:08
mh, I forgot Gostir because almost nothing is said about him, while the name of the great cold drake (as well as the beast of gondolin) is never mentioned explicitely –  Alessandro Sep 15 '14 at 21:14

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