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During The Santa Clause, Scott and Charlie eventually land at the north pole and are greeted by an elf.

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They watch as the elf raises 'the North Pole' from the ground, and a keypad flips out of the side.

A close up then reveals, quite deliberately, the elf typing the code 1239 into the keypad, which activates the elevator, lowering the sleigh into Santa's secret hideout.

What is the significance of these numbers?

It's unlikely they would use such a lingering shot without purpose, but the numbers don't appear to have any significance to the rest of the film, as far as I'm aware...

Is this a Christmas reference of some kind? or is there some other significance to these numbers in connection with Santa that I'm unaware of?

Are there any of Santa's little helpers out there that know?

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December 25, 1939 - 12/39 - the introduction of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. See: historyorb.com/date/1939/december People sometimes use birthdays as PINs or passwords. –  wbogacz Dec 25 '13 at 22:26
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@wbogacz, put it as an answer! If it's correct I can't mark it as so in the comments... –  John Smith Optional Dec 26 '13 at 13:42
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@coleopterist you have been asked to cease rollingback by a Mod, please respect my decision, and allow me control over my own question. –  John Smith Optional Dec 27 '13 at 12:07
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@coleopterist - I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't see the comment. As stated in the meta - I don't see why you cannot keep a movie name in the title if the title remains short. A rollback war over a silly thing like this is ridiculous and simply unacceptable. –  iandotkelly Dec 27 '13 at 14:29
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It is true however that on SE there is no such thing as 'the author has the right to approve all changes' hence the scope which allows for such content disputes. However clearly the author of a post has some natural sway over the content in cases where its not a matter of strict policy. In a matter of such triviality, where there is no clear cut policy, where the title is not degraded in any way by the inclusion of the movie name I would recommend just dropping this. –  iandotkelly Dec 27 '13 at 14:34
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Long shot here... Maybe the authors were interested in the idea of a code for underground worlds...

Subway lines 1239 take you through NYC to Penn Station/ 34th Street (think Miracle on 34th Street - that other movie about whether Santa is real, which is referenced in the Santa Clause at one point when the children scream "Let him go! Let Santa go!").

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These numbers have also been referenced elsewhere in pop culture (the Springfield subway is actually abandoned but still functional): enter image description here

Credit to John Rizzuto for MTA photo and Fox for the the Simpsons photo. Subway line 9 was a skip-stop line that ran from 1989-2005, so current photos of subway stops and maps only show 123 instead of 1239.

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Hey, what an interesting answer. Thanks –  iandotkelly Dec 29 '13 at 5:39
    
This is very interesting, and very well researched! If these aren't to be taken as co-incidence, it seems as though there is some kind of pre-established connection between these numbers that the movie is pointing to. I wonder what it is? –  John Smith Optional Dec 29 '13 at 18:57
    
I looked for connections between the writers (Leo Benvenuti and Steve Rudnik) and the Simpsons, but so far have turned up nothing... Was hoping that by posting this much, someone else might be able to help establish such a connection. Until then, it's entertaining speculation! –  MJ6 Dec 29 '13 at 19:05
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