In Saw 3 during the end and the paralelled Saw 4 movie, Jon said the reason he told Jeff that the reason he could kill him was because he ( Jon Kramer or Jigsaw) was the one responsible for his childs death. Is he referring to Jeffs son dylan or that he would soon be responsible for his daughters death? It was the med student Timothy young who drove drunk into Dylan and Hoffmanz freed Jeffs daughter. What child does he mean? Was it because Jigsaw had another game and that game might have been to find the door Straum found, shoot Straum or wait for cops to find him and Jigsaw knew that wouldn't happen so he would never see her?